Today I wanted to write a short post fleshing out a concept I mentioned in a recent Twitter thread on opening:
I thought of this last year while winging with an American Daygamer. This seems to be a particular problem for Americans because their culture is much nicer – on the surface – than in England. Itβs all about great service and greater tips in their bars and restaurants. And who can forget the great Hollywood smile! The problem is that when this translates to the street they canβt tease very well. They can come across as needy. Supplicating. The frame theyβre setting is βlet me perform and please like me.β They donβt quite get the English concept that you would call your friend a βnice c*nt.β
Theyβre always βteasing up:β bigging the person up with their teases. In reality they should be fractionating between teasing up and down. A mixture of bigging the person up and putting them down, but in a fun way.
Take βnice c*nt,β for example: itβs fractionating between good and bad words. It conveys the frame that the guy has his foibles – like everyone does – but we like him anyway. Just remember that this absolutely should not be a neg. There has to be balance to it so the person knows youβre not insulting them. If you come in too hard during the day and neg then the girl is simply going to walk around you. Itβs not like itβs a nighttime environment where you have to try and get the girl to wonder if you like her. In rough terms Daygame uses more Good Faith Game whereas Nightgame uses more Bad Faith Game. To learn more on that then look up Krauserβs Play Or Be Played Womaniserβs Bible podcast on YouTube.
Hereβs the example I gave in the thread to show what I mean:
Imagine @MrWhiteDaygame walks into a bar (ouch) and he’s just trained arms.
Teasing up example: woah mate, watch out with those guns! When are you entering the Olympia again?
Teasing down example: woah mate, how much tren did it take to build those?
Now hereβs an example you might give on the street to a girl with lots of shopping bags:
Teasing up example: so many shopping bagsβ¦ youβll set a world record today!
Teasing down example: so many shopping bagsβ¦ are you maxing out daddyβs credit cards today?
Better yet would be to combine them and continue to fractionate between teasing up and down:
βSo many shopping bagsβ¦ youβll set a world record today!… or perhaps you βborrowedβ daddyβs credit card and youβre trying to get back at himβ¦ either way you must be quite strong to carry all of these [opportunity to kino and playfully squeeze her bicep].β
Hereβs the polar bear example I gave during the Twitter thread:
“(TU:) Yeah, like a little polar bear… (TD:) You’re very far from home. Did you get lost?… (TU:) Or perhaps on a polar bear’s holiday… (TD:) I hope you have your sunscreen with you… (TU:) And you saved up enough Polar Bucks to spend at all the London tourist attractions.”
As you can see all the teases are flitting around that 5/10 level. If a 10/10 was βyouβre beautifulβ and 1/10 was βyouβre disgustingβ these are all bouncing between 4.5 to 5.5 / 10.
Yours unfaithfully,
Thomas Crown
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also, another thingβ¦america is way more of an βalpha maleβ catered society. women and men both celebrate jocks. more men are loud; extroverted, charismatic etc: if a girl is feeling you, she just wants compliments and drinks before you validate her with sex.
england hates alpha males (look at our prime minister) and is beta to the bone. men are expected to be humble; polite, quiet; and most importantly to never stand out. women are aware of this and thatβs why itβs so much more complex than being high status and confident. beta males tend to do better here (unless in a nightclub)
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“men are expected to be humble, polite, quiet”
You have clearly never been to Essex my friend π
P.s. as I said before this is not a place for you to work out your thoughts. Start your own blog (I won’t approve your two follow up mega comments)
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one of your best posts yet imo, but i would add one caveat. american girls in my experience are way more sexually open than british girls. as in, if they want to bang, they will be very forward. british girls are way more complex. you really donβt need to neg etc american girls, low effort is way better – itβs better to keep it simple with them; keep the compliments and good vibes flowing. spring break baby
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